If you are injured or become injured in a SHTF situation you will have difficulty shooting a bow. And that it usually sells for around bucks sometimes less on sale? Yhyu13 is still actively working on the mod, and in an update today, extended it to also support throwing knives.

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. There are so many issues that can occur with firearms. Specially-designed shells have dozens—even hundreds—of pellets that shoot in a pattern to increase chances of success. Even an inexpensive compound can feed you and yours. This site uses functional cookies and external scripts to improve your experience. Too much is never enough. If bad people see that you are armed they will just find another way to kill you like sniping you or poisoning your food. Nice article. But, at least in texas, silencers for rifles are legal. Bows or Guns?

I agree its a , barrel looks too small a diameter to be a 12g. Buy on Amazon. Good compound bows can last forever with proper care and maintenance. Firing a bow without an arrow in it is a fast way to make it explode. I have taken ground hogs and turkey with them as well so I know I can feed myself well with archery. Inside the home, the short shotgun is the ideal weapon that anyone in the family can effectively use with little training. Too much is never enough. But when it comes to survival weapons, which one comes out on top: a bow or a gun? Otherwise, stick with a.

Personal Opinion. For long term survival, simple firearms are, I believe, preferable to semi-auto or full auto. Frankly this is the stupidest modification to a firearm I have ever seen. I have hit clays at yards consistently off hand. Not after a single shot unless you have really sensitive hands. It may sound confusing, but you can shoot grouse, partridge, ptarmigan, and pheasants with a rifle, but the regulations prohibit using a single projectile from a gun to harvest migratory waterfowl. But a crossbow beats it in every way save reloading. Those have lot less recoil than a 12ga. Hackaday Links: October 4, 9 Comments.

Self plug, if you are near Montgomery you can come and shoot. I have set booby traps around my hide some are warnings some are deadly. I have a suppressed Ruger Yukon in. No one got hurt but the limbs were history, made a heck a of a bang. Hackaday Links: October 4, 9 Comments. We are talking about survival, so folks we must think out of the box of one or the other and think about both. Nicely done. If both of those match, then you can pretty much get it to pattern how you want.

Have some chickens or rabbits to eat your leftover scraps to recycle your food waste. So scroll down and learn what they are and choose which one will fit you best. Even using red oak shafts will get you nothing but a pile of kindling about 6 feet in front of you. Good points, all. Otherwise, stick with a. Specially-designed shells have dozens—even hundreds—of pellets that shoot in a pattern to increase chances of success. Leave a Reply Cancel reply. Real, but stupid. It had an inner and an outer barrel.

Also, nothing is coming out the barrel — go to youtube and watch videos of people shooting tactical shotguns with pistol grips. Availability and training are key issues now. I do have a small pile. Handguns are easy to carry with you at all times not rifles or shotguns. With a hunting pellet I believe it would at least seriously wound, if not kill, a human at moderate ranges with a head shot. Lack of ear protection is also a fail. Small game simply does NOT provide enough calories I mean. The string slips on the pulleys, and the timing of the pulley cams can get screwed up, the very first time.

After you learn how to hold, aim and fire, they become a natural way to shoot. But a sharp stick or a big club can get the job done, too. When hunting, too, being able to re-collect your arrows for future use, carrying different tips and only one kind of shaft, etc, all pluses. No one got hurt but the limbs were history, made a heck a of a bang. It may sound confusing, but you can shoot grouse, partridge, ptarmigan, and pheasants with a rifle, but the regulations prohibit using a single projectile from a gun to harvest migratory waterfowl. You will probably still be able to shoot a firearm. Maybe adding a machete for good measure. For me it is firearms every time — and very careful husbanding of ammunition.

It is highly dangerous and completely useless. Small game simply does NOT provide enough calories I mean. Fight like you train and train like you fight. Rabbits also provide great fertilizer for your garden. But it tends to make me think as the author does. Doesn't mean I would choose this over a rifle and handgun if available. It kind of makes you wonder how reliable the thing is, but if this video is any indication, it works just fine. My settings. Both the FX independent and FX Indy have pumps built into the gun and do not require anything but self pumping to psi, a very self sufficient weapon in SHTF situations. Also with a grip like that his elbow has to be bent, or the string will hit his arm.

I totally second that: bow and knife. If it is him it is real. I can also shoot off horseback with a bow or a pistol at a fast gallop. That can affect it but the biggest factor is barrel length and the choke, which is the narrowing of the barrel near the end of the tube. If you look very closely, you can see that he does not have a stock to absorb the force into his shoulder with. Why would you ever want to rig up a compound bow to fire an attached shotgun instead of shooting arrows like it was meant to? Why use arrows when you can fire shells? I chose the.

My pistol xbow holds 8 pencil sized bolts that can be fired as fast as you can draw the claw back. I used to be involved in bow and arrow sports, and the fact of the matter is I could not draw anything with a heavier draw weight than forty pounds. Availability and training are key issues now. For long term survival, simple firearms are, I believe, preferable to semi-auto or full auto. Learn how your comment data is processed. A much greater attention to care and maintenance is required. Please deactivate your ad blocker in order to see our subscription offer. Also, there may be a problem with gun regulations concerning over-all length.

A bow and arrow with a minimum draw weight of 40 pounds can be used to hunt big game in Alberta. OK, so here it is without any links. Learn how your comment data is processed. When hunting, too, being able to re-collect your arrows for future use, carrying different tips and only one kind of shaft, etc, all pluses. One is not really better than the other, as each has the power to kill efficiently, but there are many factors to consider. I'm not an expert on medieval warfare, but I have seen Army of Darkness and played several PC games, so I'm confident that shotguns can kick the hell out of your average medieval soldier. Thanks for all the data! You can drop your two cents in the comments below. This can be dangerous. Inside the home, the short shotgun is the ideal weapon that anyone in the family can effectively use with little training.

Have non gmo non hybrid seeds to grow crops they will be your main source of food. Just think: shooting a single projectile at a duck would make it very difficult to connect…but throw out pellets in a meter-wide circle, and your chances suddenly get much better! Learn how your comment data is processed. Personally, though, I primarily rely on bolt-action rifles for SHTF and, of course, revolvers — for much the same reason. Also, there may be a problem with gun regulations concerning over-all length. Or even a small load, with less powder. Crossbows are great but you have to keep bending over loss of situational awareness to take longer to cock-and-nock your rig. Besides, with a bow, you have arrows, which have sharp tips and edges.

Also, the hold pull seems easier on a longer bow. But when it comes to survival weapons, which one comes out on top: a bow or a gun? It is pointless. How much power does he really need just to set off the gun? Not after a single shot unless you have really sensitive hands. Survival bows can be just about anything, from a twig and paracord to a premade, high-end takedown bow with over 80 lbs of a draw in a bug out bag. Perfect ring of blood every shot. For range and stealth I have a fps crossbow and scope, which is perfect for every day hunting. BATF would likely want to talk to that man.

Price not available. What exactly is fulminate of mercury and how does one go about manufacturing it? All website design, text, graphics, photos, and the selection and arrangement thereof, are the sole property of Alberta Conservation Association. A much greater attention to care and maintenance is required. Shotgun A shotgun is used primarily for hunting upland birds and waterfowl. Real, but stupid. If bad people see that you are armed they will just find another way to kill you like sniping you or poisoning your food. Even an inexpensive compound can feed you and yours.

Yhyu13 is still actively working on the mod, and in an update today, extended it to also support throwing knives. Have a revolver or pistol to be on you at all times for self defense. I totally second that: bow and knife. They kick back into your shoulder that is why people put rubber pads on the end of the stock at their shoulder. But a sharp stick or a big club can get the job done, too. Im thinking Or even a small load, with less powder. A shotgun is used primarily for hunting upland birds and waterfowl. Now we just have to have Darryl build one for the third season of The Walking Dead!

Nothing like learning a lesson the hard way. Shotgun A shotgun is used primarily for hunting upland birds and waterfowl. Those have lot less recoil than a 12ga. The descriptions of how animals behave after being shot are not even remotely like what takes place in the real world. In that a practiced user can consistently hit what they are aiming at, shotguns in themselves can be very accurate. Age can be a decisive factor; as we become senior citizens 80 , muscle strength, balance and flexibility diminish. I agree its a , barrel looks too small a diameter to be a 12g. Primer, not starter.

I saw the same thing you did. I have a silent crank to cock my crossbow. Bows or Guns? Black powder could be manufactured if one could obtain the potassium chloride. Have enough ammo! Paying It Forward 21 Comments. How much power does he really need just to set off the gun? Buy on Amazon. Now there maybe other reasons not to use the high pressure guns but, lack of air pressure is not one of them.

Having said that the video does appears to have a deceiving quality to it. And that it usually sells for around bucks sometimes less on sale? I own a clay shooting facility so can easily say one shot wont make any difference to the temperature. The arrow resists the force applied. I agree its a , barrel looks too small a diameter to be a 12g. Assuming your survival situation is not strictly personal that is, you are part of a general societal, political, or technological collapse , ammo supply for firearms is going to be an inevitable problem. Firing a bow without an arrow in it is a fast way to make it explode. When he releases the bowstring the gun fires. Also, sometimes you can retrieve your arrow and use again if not damaged. This can be dangerous.

Also, the hold pull seems easier on a longer bow. If you are injured or become injured in a SHTF situation you will have difficulty shooting a bow. How much is really enough? How many adversaries are there? I would be saving the hard-to-source firearm ammo for self-defense engagements against others who intend do my family harm or take my supplies. Am I in a city or rural area or in the country. But a crossbow beats it in every way save reloading. All Rights Reserved. People who are divided are easily defeated when bad guys form groups to take your things.

However, when it comes to survival instead of sport, the hands down, number one choice is a rifle. The circumstances determine the answer. You just will not know who will be tracking the sound of your shot. One is not really better than the other, as each has the power to kill efficiently, but there are many factors to consider. People are not dumb if they want something they will find a way to get it with the least danger to themsleves. Inside the home, the short shotgun is the ideal weapon that anyone in the family can effectively use with little training. Have a revolver or pistol to be on you at all times for self defense. Share your expertise! This is a great article; helped me make some decisions!

You may never need to use a bow in a survival situation, but you'll be damn glad you're ready if the time ever comes. Privacy Settings This website uses cookies Privacy Settings This site uses functional cookies and external scripts to improve your experience. I would not use the firearm for my daily use weapon for tracking and hunting animals to keep my family alive. Trackbacks […] weapon […] Loading With a knife, you have the same sharp tips and edges. You consent to our cookies if you continue to use our website. NOTE: These settings will only apply to the browser and device you are currently using. It matters little what weapons society leaves us with at its collapse, it is what we are able to fashion out of our knowledge that will insure long term survival. Lack of ear protection is also a fail. It kind of makes you wonder how reliable the thing is, but if this video is any indication, it works just fine.

Great idea! Can i interest you in some slingshots with lead ammo? In an urban setting, considerations really are different. Anything from bent iron sights to a bent barrel. It could possibly work to use the string to hit a firing pin, which if it is real I think the guy above suggesting they are shooting blanks is correct. This gentleman has apparently removed the stock of a 12 gauge shotgun and positioned the barrel as if it were an arrow. I used to be involved in bow and arrow sports, and the fact of the matter is I could not draw anything with a heavier draw weight than forty pounds. Arrows are slower but can penetrate body armor.

There are so many issues that can occur with firearms. Regardless of the method, make sure you are proficient. A suppressed rifle would be the ticket for stealth. Search Search for:. Also, it is not difficult to make a metal triangular cone that will act like a case full of powder to explode on impact, kind of like rambo. You may change your settings at any time. Small game simply does provide enough calories to make them worth hunting over the long haul especially if you have a large family. All Rights Reserved. Calibers run all the way from. Frankly this is the stupidest modification to a firearm I have ever seen.

To use the bow as a trigger mechanism is idiotic. Though that high rate use of firearm ammo can also be their downfall. Wes Fenlon. Ammo is cheaper, too. Fiberglass recurve bows are nearly indestructible. The re-curve releases the weight of the bow at full draw which makes for much easier shooting. Filed Under: bow bow and arrow bow and shotgun shotgun. Nicely done. Shot pattern has nothing to do with length of barrel, that is velocity only, Pattern spread is dictated by the barrels chokes. All website design, text, graphics, photos, and the selection and arrangement thereof, are the sole property of Alberta Conservation Association.

Calibers run all the way from. Use snares and traps for small game. Also, nothing is coming out the barrel — go to youtube and watch videos of people shooting tactical shotguns with pistol grips. Besides, with a bow, you have arrows, which have sharp tips and edges. But when it comes to survival weapons, which one comes out on top: a bow or a gun? But a sharp stick or a big club can get the job done, too. The balance point of a bow is the top of the hand, and in the video, the top of the bow hardly moves back. I have fired 12 gauge many times, They donot kick up in the air.

One is not really better than the other, as each has the power to kill efficiently, but there are many factors to consider. I have hit clays at yards consistently off hand. With a hunting pellet I believe it would at least seriously wound, if not kill, a human at moderate ranges with a head shot. The bang sound is also coming from the right of whatever is in the camera view, I have no idea if the bang comes from the gun or the shell hitting the target, but I was under the impression it was from the shell being shot out of the gun? Use snares and traps for small game. I have a shotgun for base camp and water fowl. These guns are not toys. Books have been written about this. A bow and arrow with a minimum draw weight of 40 pounds can be used to hunt big game in Alberta. Seems reasonable to me.

Great article though! Otherwise, you can saw off about as far as you want and still get a small pattern, but then you lose velocity. I own a clay shooting facility so can easily say one shot wont make any difference to the temperature. I like to retain all the options I can. The mod doesn't by default look that impressive—it hits enemies with a hell of a lot of force, but doesn't really give you that satisfying pellet spread of a real shotgun. The re-curve releases the weight of the bow at full draw which makes for much easier shooting. Would some one tell me what kind of bow is in the girls hand in the first photo? The beautiful thing about a well built muzzle loader is the way they are balanced. See comments. Maybe he handles the dry fire problem but just turning the draw weight way down.

Im thinking Anything from bent iron sights to a bent barrel. The really bad part is when it is a compound bow. I agree its a , barrel looks too small a diameter to be a 12g. I own a clay shooting facility so can easily say one shot wont make any difference to the temperature. But a crossbow beats it in every way save reloading. Learn how your comment data is processed. Centrefire rifles use a large calibre bullet with a minimum of. It had an inner and an outer barrel. Which cookies and scripts are used and how they impact your visit is specified on the left.

But, at least in texas, silencers for rifles are legal. Those have a lot of blow-by and push the arrows out just fast enough to poke into the padding. How can either of us lose? The MIND. How much power does he really need just to set off the gun? Fiberglass recurve bows are nearly indestructible. Regardless of the method, make sure you are proficient. Bows or Guns? No deer ever went very far after being struck.

In an urban setting, considerations really are different. An ethical harvest is always your primary goal. Doesn't mean I would choose this over a rifle and handgun if available. No one got hurt but the limbs were history, made a heck a of a bang. No part of a firearm or the ammunition can be that easily repaired or replaced. A take-down bow can have one of its limbs break which, if the skill is known, can be replaced on the go with acceptable materials at hand. Regardless of the method, make sure you are proficient. You may never need to use a bow in a survival situation, but you'll be damn glad you're ready if the time ever comes. If you want to get into PCP rifles you can take down anything including a Bison in one shot. But the compound bow, which it a bit awkward in other ways to carry, is short low peek-over , packs plenty of pull in a small package that is less fragile if maintained and the let-off at draw cuts fatigue, important for an old cat like me.

Use snares and traps for small game. Facebook Pinterest Tumblr Twitter Youtube. Thanks for the informative post. To what degree the barrel rotates is dependent on the amount of control built into to gun, and the shooter exerts. It is amazingly accurate out to yards. But a sharp stick or a big club can get the job done, too. I think it real and real dumb because all the recoil forces go through your wrist, elbow, and shoulder joints. Topics RPG.

I have a lot of subsonic ammo but I would still like to get a bow- both a recurve and a recurve crossbow. I used to be involved in bow and arrow sports, and the fact of the matter is I could not draw anything with a heavier draw weight than forty pounds. Great article though! We are talking about survival, so folks we must think out of the box of one or the other and think about both. As someone who owns and uses both a compund bow and a 12 guage shotgun, i find this very wasteful for both items to be combined — all accuracy is gone, it is merely a noise maker.. The balance point of a bow is the top of the hand, and in the video, the top of the bow hardly moves back. Oh — and TONS of practice with both. Seems to be gone. An ethical harvest is always your primary goal.

As always in a real world situation, the one you have close at hand and know how to use will always be the best choice. Am I in a city or rural area or in the country. But when it comes to survival weapons, which one comes out on top: a bow or a gun? Rabbits also provide great fertilizer for your garden. Shotgun, Rifle, or Bow? For long term survival, simple firearms are, I believe, preferable to semi-auto or full auto. Nice article. And that it usually sells for around bucks sometimes less on sale?

The world of airguns has really advanced. Inside the home, the short shotgun is the ideal weapon that anyone in the family can effectively use with little training. Would some one tell me what kind of bow is in the girls hand in the first photo? Go Shopping Uncle Judds. If you want to get into PCP rifles you can take down anything including a Bison in one shot. Though that high rate use of firearm ammo can also be their downfall. All firearms kick up. Or even a small load, with less powder.

Facebook Pinterest Tumblr Twitter Youtube. A bow and arrow with a minimum draw weight of 40 pounds can be used to hunt big game in Alberta. I chose the. When I first saw the picture, I thought the barrel was for improving accuracy of the arrow, or adding stability while keeping you from smashing your hand with the string. I own a clay shooting facility so can easily say one shot wont make any difference to the temperature. All these things must be taken into account. See comments. How much is really enough?

Filed Under: bow bow and arrow bow and shotgun shotgun. Instead of spending time now making arrowheads out of spoons which is very low tech and requires no special skills, I would recommend purchasing a supply of commercial broadheads and concentrating on learning out to make primers. The bow should kick back further. Plus, who dry-fires a compound bow? Handguns have the same basic questionable utility there, too. Looks Real to me. Report comment. All these things must be taken into account. Imho, the basic bow and arrow is an excellent survival tool if nothing else is available.

We are talking about survival, so folks we must think out of the box of one or the other and think about both. Regardless of the method, make sure you are proficient. Search Search for:. By using our website and services, you expressly agree to the placement of our performance, functionality and advertising cookies. One thing that was missed in this whole thing was airguns. I have set booby traps around my hide some are warnings some are deadly. Trackbacks […] weapon […] Loading I have fired 12 gauge many times, They donot kick up in the air. I have taken ground hogs and turkey with them as well so I know I can feed myself well with archery.

The descriptions of how animals behave after being shot are not even remotely like what takes place in the real world. Now that being said, if I had the choice between a pistol with only 3 rounds and a bow with only 3 arrows, I'm always going to pick the bow. Still have my slingshot!!! If he is not , and it is real he is an idiot the way he fumbles with it towards the end. Learn how your comment data is processed. Paying It Forward 21 Comments. All of the kick would translate to his hand. Add to that the low recoil load and. Give that some thought.

This can easily split the bow in two. We would like to hear from you. The wound channel from a broad head is devastating. Crossbows are great but you have to keep bending over loss of situational awareness to take longer to cock-and-nock your rig. The arrow resists the force applied. Calibers run all the way from. Or even a small load, with less powder. The outer barrel was small enough that the arrow had to be twisted a bit to get the fletching in.

Which is the best the survival weapon? Otherwise, you can saw off about as far as you want and still get a small pattern, but then you lose velocity. If you do a bit of research you will find it is a. Great points. On this basis I would lean toward the rifle instead of a bow. Anything from bent iron sights to a bent barrel. I agree its a , barrel looks too small a diameter to be a 12g. Why use arrows when you can fire shells? Personal Opinion.

Are there other substances that will cause a flame of sufficient brisance to ignite home made gunpowder? I wonder if it could help you abuse bow hunting laws. Thanks for all the data! My arsenal will grow until I am taken out, at which point either my family members will follow suit or the agressor will have a nice arsenal. Rifle A single projectile is for harvesting larger animals. Leave a Reply Cancel reply. Lack of ear protection is also a fail. As someone who owns and uses both a compund bow and a 12 guage shotgun, i find this very wasteful for both items to be combined — all accuracy is gone, it is merely a noise maker..

There are hand air pumps made for air rifles. The re-curve releases the weight of the bow at full draw which makes for much easier shooting. Assuming the gun kicked straight back, the whole thing is guaranteed to swing up. I think it real and real dumb because all the recoil forces go through your wrist, elbow, and shoulder joints. I have hit clays at yards consistently off hand. Can i interest you in some slingshots with lead ammo? It looked put on to me and led me to believe either it is a fake or he ruined his credibility because he thought he needed to embellish to make up for using a blank in his demo. BATF would likely want to talk to that man. Typically the one that matters and hit harder.

Archery A bow and arrow with a minimum draw weight of 40 pounds can be used to hunt big game in Alberta. Obviously, the time to learn to use any weapon system is now, while the pressures of dire survival are not absorbing all your time and resources. Both have benefits obviously and the article does a good job pointing them out. This gentleman has apparently removed the stock of a 12 gauge shotgun and positioned the barrel as if it were an arrow. Could it be that he only fires blanks, hence the lack of recoil? Doesn't mean I would choose this over a rifle and handgun if available. What has been left out of this discussion are Airguns, modern Airguns can have significant power and ammunition is inexpensive and can be handmade if necessary. You can also use archery equipment to harvest game birds in Alberta. Practice and knowledge of your equipment will allow you to place an arrow in the vitals of an animal, for quick and humane harvest. Tell the unsuspecting shooter of a.

The world of airguns has really advanced. What makes that trick difficult with a traditional bow is arrows do not fly straight, even from ones with an offset in the middle. If someone proves that this is fake… I guarantee I could build a real one ;-. I also doubt he has the tension high enough to do any damage. Am I in a city or rural area or in the country. Just food for thought. Not the ideal gun for that, but it should allow you to save your. Perhaps this will extend to an actual, fully fledged shotgun in the future.

A mechanism like that will destroy the bow. Thanks for the informative post. Self plug, if you are near Montgomery you can come and shoot. Come-on there ways to get compressed air without electric. I have a huge collection of airguns and the beauty is that I can practice all day long with the smaller calibers for a couple dollars. I started with the bow and rifles at about 8yo. A bullet flies flat and fast from a rifled barrel, providing the accuracy required when aiming at a specific spot on an animal. Buy on Amazon. Bows or Guns? No part of a firearm or the ammunition can be that easily repaired or replaced.